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Post by MercurySolo on Sept 15, 2003 22:18:17 GMT -5
www.zwanmusic.org/newsarchive/244.htmlSeptember 15, 2003, 2:33 pm Zwan Call It Quits Source: Rolling Stone Billy Corgan announced this morning that Zwan, the band he started two years ago, have broken up. "I think my heart was in Smashing Pumpkins," Corgan told a local news affiliate in Chicago this morning. "I think it was naive of me to think that I could find something that would mean as much to me. I enjoyed my experience in Zwan, but at the end of the day, without that sense of deeper family and loyalty, it becomes like anything else. In some cases I felt that the band members viewed it as something they could decide to do or not to do." Corgan started the band after the December 2000 breakup of the Pumpkins. He enlisted Pumpkins drummer Jimmy Chamberlin, guitarists Matt Sweeney and David Pajo, and bassist Paz Lenchantin in late 2001 and the band released its debut, Mary Star of the Sea in January 2003. Corgan's comments about band loyalty might center around Pajo, who fronted his own band, Papa M, in addition to Zwan duty. In early August, Lenchantin left Zwan to dedicate more time to Pajo's band. With Zwan's demise, so goes Djali Zwan, an acoustic incarnation of the same band. In March, Corgan told Rolling Stone that he was going to film and record the band this fall for a CD and DVD due next year, but those plans have presumably been scrapped. And though Corgan said in March that he "love the romance and safety of a band," when asked this if he would be starting a new group, Corgan responded, "I'm thirty-six, I'm ready for a solo career."
Before that, though, Corgan plans to immerse himself in a non-musical venture. On Wednesday, he'll present some of his poetry as part of a multi-media presentation at the thirty-first annual Reading Series for the Poetry Center of Chicago. Corgan has also been shopping a collection of poetry around to publishers.
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Post by headINcortex on Sept 15, 2003 22:23:24 GMT -5
not trying to sound too therapist-like...how do you feel about it, merc.
and is it just me, or is it actually true that everytime i get on here to post, you end up posting at the same time?
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Post by soniktruth on Sept 16, 2003 0:20:01 GMT -5
SMASHING PUMPKINS OF THE WORLD, RE-UNITE AND TAKE OVER!!!
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Post by motherprussia on Sept 16, 2003 0:32:39 GMT -5
it would be cool if SP got back together...but a billy corgan solo project...hmmmm, i don't know...
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Post by soniktruth on Sept 16, 2003 0:40:28 GMT -5
C'MON, CORGAN BY HIMSELF WOULD BE OK, JAMES IHA AND JIMMY CHAMBERLAIN GAVE SP A CERTAIN DEGREE OF UNIQUENESS....SO I'D RATHER GO FOR SP, THAN SOLO CORG....CORG WOULD BE COOL, BUT, IT WOULD BE ONESIDED ALTOGETHER....WHAT DO YOU THINK MERCMAN?
NOTE: MERCURY SOLO IS THE ATD-I BOARD'S OWN [shadow=red,left,300]SMASHING PUMPKINS[/shadow]EXPERT
#nosmileys
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Post by CoKeS on Sept 16, 2003 14:08:18 GMT -5
while i was reading that little blurp, i was hoping Corgan would say something about trying to re-unite the pumpkins. but when i think of it, their time has ended and it'd be best not to try and start things up again. and i dont think anyone really thought that Zwan would be around for a long time because more than half the band had some sort of side project. MSOTS was an excellent album and im glad it was made.
R.I.P.
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Post by MercurySolo on Sept 16, 2003 20:26:20 GMT -5
Zwan was a great band. I'm glad I got to see them live once before they broke up, and the Mary Star of the Sea is one of my favorite albums. Their breakup isn't a shock, 'cause like Cokes said, everyone had a side project, which is kinda new to Billy, since he was in control during most of Smashing Pumpkins.
Would I like an SP reunion? Hell yeah, but it wouldn't be the same unless it was Billy, James, D'arcy and Jimmy. Their "time" was the 90's, but that doesn't mean that if they got back together, they couldn't tear shit up again.
If they stay broken up, that's fine too, but I couldn't help but feel that in his closing statement, he sounded a little nostalgic for the Pumpkins. So it wouldn't be surprising if there was a reunion anytime soon, but this would put James and D' Arcy in the power seat, ironically.
Bottom line is that with the Pumpkins, it seemed Billy had a certain expectation for how a band should be, and Zwan didn't live up to that because Pajo had his own thing going on. whatever happens is his preroggative, Sweeney, Pajo and Paz won't be hurting from it.
Hey, in a world where the Eagles and the Pixies are touring again, ANYTHING could happen ;D
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Post by CoKeS on Sept 16, 2003 21:42:57 GMT -5
damn, merc, you've seen a lot of good fucking bands live. i never even knew you saw zwan... how were they? i was suppose to go see them, but sadly, kids in my town dont appreciate good music.
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Post by MercurySolo on Sept 16, 2003 23:38:54 GMT -5
They were pretty great, they sounded better than the album. They cranked the guitars pretty loud, and Jimmy just banged the fuck outta the drums. Paz was wearing her trademark too-small t-shirt and too-short hot pants, grooving and giving the guys in the front row a pretty great show, heh. Here's the set:
Warfield Theatre, San Francisco, CA 4-22-03
Mary Star of the Sea
Endless Summer
For Your Love
Lyric
Declarations of Faith
El Sol
Jesus, I [Lyte]
> Star Spangled Banner [Key] (tease)
> God's Gonna Set This World on Fire
Riverview
Baby, Let's Rock
Heartsong
Of a Broken Heart
Honestly
Settle Down
Encore 1:
Spilled Milk
Encore 2:
A New Poetry
Spilled Milk kicked ass, it was fucking hardcore, sounded like Silverfuck played with Tales of a Scorched Earth's mood. it was a great concert.
The kids in my hometown didn't appreciate good music, either. I could have gotten 2 tickets to see SP on the Arising! tour (right after Jimmy rejoined the band and a few months before D' Arcy left), but none of my friends wanted to drive to San Diego (which was the worst show on the tour anyway, I heard, since the fans weren't into it and a lot of them left before the end of the show). Club shows kick ass.
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Post by CoKeS on Sept 17, 2003 22:01:46 GMT -5
yeah, i love cluv shows. every spot has a pretty good view, im kinda bummed im seeing radiohead at MSG, i dont wanna sit down, i wanna stand up... get it?
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Post by MercurySolo on Sept 18, 2003 22:05:36 GMT -5
I think I do, but I might be wrong
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Post by soniktruth on Sept 19, 2003 22:46:42 GMT -5
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Post by CoKeS on Sept 20, 2003 12:06:28 GMT -5
ditto... quik on the words arent ya merc?
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Post by MercurySolo on Sept 20, 2003 14:43:32 GMT -5
yeah, pun-type humor rocks... my gf hates it, though, heheheheh.... the mark of a pun-dit, kinda like how everyone hates a good mime.  (Xtra credit for bored persons: Can anyone guess the identity of the mime? I'll give you a hint, it'd be easier if you had some foil, a set of pliers, a toilet paper roll and/or an avocado) |
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Post by soniktruth on Sept 21, 2003 1:38:11 GMT -5
Corgan's comments about band loyalty might center around Pajo, who fronted his own band, Papa M, in addition to Zwan duty. In early August, Lenchantin left Zwan to dedicate more time to Pajo's band.
LOOK, PAZ LECHANTIN NEEDS TO STOP BAND-HOPPING...SHE'S ALREADY LEFT 2 REALLY GOOD BANDS. A PERFECT CIRCLE AND ZWAN (WHICH IS NO MORE)...TOO FUCKING BAD....ZWAN REALLY HAD A FUTURE, I GUESS CORGANS EGO GOT IN THE WAY....WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? ANYWAYS...PAZ, TAKE YOUR PAXIL!!
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Post by motherprussia on Sept 21, 2003 2:26:18 GMT -5
billy will probably be happier doing some solo stuff now...but this leaves room for an eventual smashing pumpkins return, at least that's what i think...once james is done having fun with a perfect circle that is...and where's d'arcy?...is jimmy gunna stick with billy when he does the solo stuff?...i guess i just have a lot of questions...
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Post by CoKeS on Sept 22, 2003 13:14:36 GMT -5
d'arcy is blowing rails somewhere probably
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Post by motherprussia on Sept 22, 2003 16:52:31 GMT -5
i've never heard the term "blowing rails" before...
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Post by CoKeS on Sept 22, 2003 17:41:18 GMT -5
really? its quite a popular saying if i do say so myself.
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Post by MercurySolo on Sept 22, 2003 19:49:36 GMT -5
C0K35 I5 0F T3H PUmPK1n5 1337!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111 Every Pumpkins fan knows this simple mathematical equation: D'Arcy + time spent out of SP = CRACK TIME!!!!! heheheheh... The D' Arcy - crack connection gets more ingenious everytime I hear it. Why else would she look like a duck (even though she was the cat, but that's a different era)?  Pumpkins love |
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Post by CoKeS on Sept 22, 2003 19:54:31 GMT -5
she looks terrible... i thought d'arcy was hot in the BWBW video, but Paz is way hotter!
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Post by MercurySolo on Sept 22, 2003 19:54:43 GMT -5
I think Paz is an awesome artist and musician, but from what I hear, Paz was asked to leave Zwan... the reasons for the breakup are so blatant that there's lots of shady areas, if that makes sense...
Basically, I think to Billy Corgan, ZWAN was kinda like that rebound chick you date after ending a long relationship you invested a lot of time into... It's never going to be the same as the first relationship, and just because the first girl was tolerant enough to let you make all the decisions in the relationship doesn't mean rebound girl will relinquish independance... there, I think that analogy is almost worthy of Teh Billy.
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Post by MercurySolo on Sept 22, 2003 19:57:00 GMT -5
Yes, Paz does not look like a duck, heh... that's because she does not burn her lips on the crackpipe  HIIIIII OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by soniktruth on Sept 22, 2003 23:18:31 GMT -5
C0K35 I5 0F T3H PUmPK1n5 1337!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111 Every Pumpkins fan knows this simple mathematical equation: D'Arcy + time spent out of SP = CRACK TIME!!!!! heheheheh... The D' Arcy - crack connection gets more ingenious everytime I hear it. Why else would she look like a duck (even though she was the cat, but that's a different era)? Pumpkins love true story fellas, D'arcy sold me her eyebrows for some crack.....seriously...here's the proof  |
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Post by motherprussia on Sept 23, 2003 0:36:03 GMT -5
so i assume blowing rails has something to do with smoking crack?
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Post by CoKeS on Sept 23, 2003 18:25:02 GMT -5
blowing rails is when you snort coccaine...
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Post by soniktruth on Sept 23, 2003 22:03:19 GMT -5
snorting rails is said down south cali
or gaggers, or linas (pronounced leen-yuhs),
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Post by MercurySolo on Sept 23, 2003 22:41:23 GMT -5
Coke, Crack, Roofies, Heroin... The Amazing D' Arcy has conquered all!
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Post by motherprussia on Sept 24, 2003 2:33:02 GMT -5
they just kill people in gary, indiana (though i've been there like three times in my life...the kids back home do extasy at the most, usually...
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Post by CoKeS on Sept 24, 2003 6:31:20 GMT -5
the major drug out where i live is obviously marijuana... shrooms are becoming popular out here too.
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