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Post by Bradley on May 1, 2005 11:27:31 GMT -5
Yes I realise not that many here are from the UK.
Those that are not can join in anyway and say who they would vote for.
I dont think anyone on this board is from the 6counties, which explains me omitting SDLP, Sinn Fein, UUP, DUP, PUP, etc.
I'll kick it off by saying I'm going to vote for the Green Party. Unfortunately I live in England which makes the impressive SNP and Plaid Cymru an impossible alternative, but one which I would surely take up.
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Post by Castro on May 1, 2005 11:43:35 GMT -5
i'm too young to vote, plus i know barely anything about politics
anywayz my family is labour but when it comes to voting in 5 years i might be green, cuz i think our environment is a world major issue
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Post by Rubberneck on May 1, 2005 13:28:29 GMT -5
it's awesome that the green party is much more of a presence in europe than in america. here, if the green party is mentioned, the only topic that is destined to come up is the legalization of marijuana. what do each of the political parties stand for in the UK, if i may ask?
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Post by sez on May 1, 2005 13:47:30 GMT -5
Lib dem.
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Post by soniktruth on May 1, 2005 13:48:51 GMT -5
explain all the parties and their idealogies to us.....give us an idea who'd we vote for if we were british....
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Post by Castro on May 1, 2005 16:30:52 GMT -5
labour is basically for education and the working class.....like i said i dont have a clue about politics so thats as far as i'm going to venture
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Post by CoKeS on May 1, 2005 17:43:48 GMT -5
I learned about british political groups in my political science class this semester. however, i was asleep for most of it.
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Post by piesore on May 1, 2005 23:54:39 GMT -5
Blair is in the labour party right?
And you vote for the party, and whoever's the head becomes prime minister?
Do people support the Labor Party even if they're against tony blair?
And is there anything that can be done to switch himout w/ someone else, but keep the same party?
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Post by motherprussia on May 2, 2005 0:28:43 GMT -5
it's awesome that the green party is much more of a presence in europe than in america. here, if the green party is mentioned, the only topic that is destined to come up is the legalization of marijuana. what do each of the political parties stand for in the UK, if i may ask? um, i always thought that was a different green party... |
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Post by Rubberneck on May 2, 2005 2:43:22 GMT -5
it is, and that's what i am saying. youth in america don't realize that there is even a political party out there that is founded upon environmental policy.
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Post by motherprussia on May 2, 2005 3:49:34 GMT -5
i just remember reading somewhere about how there is a green party in many, many countries but they don't always follow consistent platforms...but then again, most i know about the american green party is ralph nader...when he was in it
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Post by Castro on May 2, 2005 5:44:05 GMT -5
Blair is in the labour party right? And you vote for the party, and whoever's the head becomes prime minister? Do people support the Labor Party even if they're against tony blair? And is there anything that can be done to switch himout w/ someone else, but keep the same party? blair is labour. i think basically the rights of the oppostition are to basically give the prime minister shit and question all the things he's doing wrong. i think the prime minister can be kicked out by the rest of his party but not by the public or opposing parties. bear in mind these are educated guesses |
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Post by Bradley on May 2, 2005 11:49:46 GMT -5
Labour
Used to be Social Democratic in values. Now party for middle class types who didn't like Thatcher at the end. Still Trade Union supported. Working class still vote Labour in droves, because, basically, they are uneducated. On a local level in poor areas they probably do good work, but at leadership level they are cunts.
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Post by Bradley on May 2, 2005 11:52:28 GMT -5
Conservative
Free Marketeers, party of the middle class. Official opposition, but very ineffectual. Wil come second. Low tax and "controlled" immigration main policies. I think vote growing among working class, and working class that think they are middle class because of the popular myth that "them immigrants" are "stealing our houses and jobs" Now the party appeals to toffs who are tory through and through, and ignorant tabloid readers.
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Post by Bradley on May 2, 2005 11:54:24 GMT -5
Lib Dems
Liberals socially and economicallly. Populist. Anti-war, anti-studnet fees. Most progressive party. Encourage higher tax on the highest band, over 100k a yr. Middle class , odd-ball, and protest votes here.
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Post by Bradley on May 2, 2005 11:55:31 GMT -5
UKIP, Veritas
Want withdrawal from the EU. Implicit racists in immigration policy. Ignorant fuckers vote here.
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Post by Bradley on May 2, 2005 11:57:43 GMT -5
BNP
Far-right club with links to the NF and Combat 18.
Anti multiculturalism in all forms, pro-repatriation, anti-EU. Unspeakable people vote for them.
I am ashamed to say at last local elections, they got 800,000+ votes total. Have several council seats locally in racist areas of country.
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Post by Bradley on May 2, 2005 12:00:12 GMT -5
Green
Concern for environment primarily. Now have MEPs, local councellors. Other policies are Social Democratic in nature. The closeest we have to a social democratic party. Quite small
On the Green question: they are not big here, but are in coalition in Germany, and are generally bigger on the continent. The UK always has more in common with the US than Europe.
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Post by Bradley on May 2, 2005 12:06:26 GMT -5
Oh, the leadership Question...
To remove a party leader, there must be 90 signatures of the party's MPs presented to the chairman. Then there will be a leadership contest in which any nominated challangers will go into a ballot with the current leader. Each party has slightly different rules, as written in their constitiution. Party members and/or MPs will choose in a series of ballots.
Blair will not be ousted because he has already said he wil not seek a 4th term as PM, thus opening the door to his Chancellor Gordon Brown at some point in the 3rd term.
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Post by Bradley on May 5, 2005 13:29:52 GMT -5
No? No more takers?
Green it was.
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Post by sez on May 5, 2005 14:05:09 GMT -5
I just voted, polling station like 3 seconds from my house.
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Post by Castro on May 5, 2005 15:45:07 GMT -5
when do we find out whose won?
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Post by sez on May 5, 2005 16:17:35 GMT -5
Not sure, I hadnt though about that really.
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Post by piesore on May 5, 2005 20:28:22 GMT -5
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Post by Bradley on May 6, 2005 15:46:17 GMT -5
Ok guys. Stayed up till 5.30.
66 is the Majority.
Bad things: Consevative advane in seats, BNP loadsa votes. DUP outfight UUP.
Good Things: Two high-profile Labour losses to progressive candidates. Lib Dems gain seats, Labour majority down. SDLP outfight UUP. SNP+2.
Not too bad.
Michael Howard resigns.
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Post by soniktruth on May 7, 2005 1:04:14 GMT -5
who's worse blair or bush
stupid question....bush of course!!
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Post by Bradley on May 7, 2005 18:41:40 GMT -5
hah. Yeah. I don't like Blair, but I've figured out I'd much rather have this Labour Government than the Conservative or Liberals in power. We just need a stronger opposition. Just to make it a challange like.
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