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Post by MercurySolo on Mar 30, 2003 23:02:46 GMT -5
This is a heated topic, I'm sure, and this is meant to be a thread for intelligent debate, not a pissing contest, so haters need not apply.
:: stops pissing and waits for votes ::
My opinion: I support the military (have an uncle and aunt in Iraq militarily), and cringe whenever any civilians die, it's not their fault that Saddam is a moron, just as it's not our military's fault that Bush isn't necessarily the brightest crayon in the box (not the sharpest knife in the drawer, the elevator doesn't go all the way up, the wheels still turning but the hamster died last week, etc...). I'm anti-war, but Saddam is a terrible person whom my country put in power, and we should clean up the mess we made while causing as little havok as possible, as it's not the citizens of Iraq we're fighting, and a large number of their military isn't even willing to fight for Hussein unless the Fedayeen puts the gunbarrels to their family's backs.
Being anti-war, I'm ashamed of the anti-war demonstrators in this country. They say that Violence is not the answer, yet throw rocks and whatever else at the cops, jump US Soldiers walking the streets of America, and generally take the peacefulness out of Peaceful Protest. Hippocrates like that make anyone who doesn't like war seem "unAmerican". Last I checked, it was American to have freedom of speech, regardless of whether it concurrs with your governments opinions or not. Taking that freedom away would be truly unAmerican.
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Post by motherprussia on Mar 30, 2003 23:22:10 GMT -5
i agree with you merc...and it just bothers me how we like helping people like saddam and osama fight against people we don't like (uh, like Iran)...and then having saddam and osama (who were once on our side) become a thorn in our side...it just makes us, as a country, look stupid and careless...and maybes it's because we are...
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Post by Kurtz on Apr 1, 2003 10:32:16 GMT -5
I don't agree... I mean...
Saddam is known to have uncoventional weaponary due to his war in Iran where he used biological and chemical weapons.And not only that he is a corrupted dictator he also abuses the Iraqi people.
All this makes young Bush's plan seem to be pretty rightgous but is that the best soloution to deal with the problem.sending american troops to fight in a far away land without the U.N's support knowing that Saddam will retaliate.Bush had obviously underestimated the Iraqi's army cabilities. Iraqi soldeirs had already downed choppers, killed troops and captured 10 american troops and after series of tortures of all sorts evantually killed them.And the troops still hadn't dealt with Baghdad which will be twice as complex.smart bombs wont cut it.So not only troops and innocent people will die the situation might escalate.It may become another Vietnam or a third world war. as a matter of fact it is beggining to be very similar.Bush had already sent renforcemnts of 40,000 soldires to iraq similary to vietnam (couldn't win the war and had to send more and more soldeirs and as a result sacrficing hundred of thosands to a war in a far away land)
Bush has some good points on why to attack iraq but it might not be enough to justify a war.In my opinion it is a bad idea to invade Iraq.It raises to many similarties to dreadful wars and have to many elements of one.It reminds me of when Hitler's empire fell when he tried to invade russia not that i'm comparing Hitler to Bush yet i still think it's a bad idea to try and control to much.
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Post by MercurySolo on Apr 1, 2003 13:55:52 GMT -5
Bush and Hitler are incomparable... Hitler was elected, Bush wasn't. j/k
Anyway, I see your point, Kurtz... if I didn't have family over there, I'd probably be 100% against the war... I hate knowing that the same people Saddam has been tourturing (the Iraqi people) are going to be killed in attacks of an ill-planned war in my country's name. We should've been more prepared... instead, we send a large chunk of our military to Iraq, with another chunk in Afghanistan and more still in Bosnia, and now the military's getting too spread out... seems like Bush might have to find more troops somewhere...
Side note: Bush dodged Vietnam, as did a lot of his cabinet, due to being senator's sons, rich, or whatnot...
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Post by soniktruth on Apr 3, 2003 1:32:24 GMT -5
WELCOME TO VIETNOW!!!!
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