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Post by tremulant on Feb 6, 2005 22:56:10 GMT -5
ah
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Post by soniktruth on Feb 7, 2005 16:31:07 GMT -5
why would canadians hate our government...
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Post by tremulant on Feb 7, 2005 17:06:54 GMT -5
Same reason everyone else does...because we've seen the aftermath of stupid decisions. And also, does the term "manifest destiny" ring a bell?
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Post by motherprussia on Feb 8, 2005 3:30:24 GMT -5
if we really followed that manifest destiny we would have taken canada as well, but i mean, who wants that frozen block us shit up there?
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Post by soniktruth on Feb 8, 2005 16:19:27 GMT -5
if we really followed that manifest destiny we would have taken canada as well, but i mean, who wants that frozen block us shit up there? ohhh!!
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Post by tremulant on Feb 8, 2005 17:03:54 GMT -5
...it's nice in the summertime.
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Post by Castro on Feb 9, 2005 11:23:42 GMT -5
i want to live in canada
just thought i'd say that
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Post by tremulant on Feb 9, 2005 22:20:33 GMT -5
Well, our country has continually been used for it's natural resources. And by natural resources, I mean every natural resource. Timber, crude oil, wheat, livestock, and anything else you can drain from us. A frozen block of shit isn't really accurate. It's a awesome, free country with beautiful women. Not that I'm patriotic, but I gotta represent...word.
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Post by motherprussia on Feb 9, 2005 22:51:00 GMT -5
i've been to canada a few times, mainly toronto, and i have to say i love that city, and i really enjoy canada and the people...they always treated us americans well, no matter what they might say behind our backs...
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Post by DigitalDwarf on Feb 10, 2005 1:51:41 GMT -5
because they want our funds, ya'll! Annex the mounties............j/k
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Post by Evycakes on Feb 10, 2005 6:35:21 GMT -5
lol did anyone see that dave chapelle skit? where he was running for some politicion possition .. and he was all like "if you vote for me you will all get canadian i.d's so you can qualify for their healthcare system" lol
canada is great
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Post by tremulant on Feb 10, 2005 19:30:43 GMT -5
haha, yes I saw that! So funny, I love Chapelle. Free fake Canadian I.D.s, lol.
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Post by soniktruth on Feb 20, 2005 20:13:57 GMT -5
pre$ident bu$h is a $toner
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Post by soniktruth on Feb 22, 2005 4:18:59 GMT -5
$cared con$ervative$
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Post by soniktruth on Mar 22, 2005 16:36:20 GMT -5
In Texas, Critics Question Bush's 'Life' Culture
By Jeff Franks
HOUSTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites)'s intervention for Terri Schiavo has opened old wounds in Texas where death penalty opponents say his words of support for a "culture of life" ring hollow after so many executions during his time as governor of the state.
Bush said he stepped into the Schiavo case because the United States should have "a presumption in favor of life," but there were 152 executions in Texas during his administration, including some in which the convict's guilt was in doubt, critics said.
"It's hypocrisy at a thousand levels," said University of Houston law professor and death penalty defense attorney David Dow.
"I saw many, many cases where there was substantial doubt about whether someone was guilty or whether the death penalty was the appropriate sentence, but he never said anything," said David Atwood, head of the Texas Coalition Against the Death Penalty. "I really can't say he cares about life."
"We all recognize there is a difference between an innocent person and someone who has committed a heinous crime, but to say one life is important and one isn't, that's politics," Atwood said.
Bush has defended the high number of executions by saying he was confident everyone put to death in Texas was guilty because they had had a fair hearing in the courts he believed capital punishment was a deterrent to crime.
He interrupted a Texas vacation and flew to Washington to sign an emergency law passed by Congress on Monday that forced a review of the Schiavo case in federal court.
Schiavo, 41, has been in a vegetative state since a heart attack in 1990. Last week, a Florida court, at her husband's request, ordered the removal of the feeding tube keeping her alive, but her parents argued it should stay in place.
"In cases like this one, where there are serious questions and substantial doubts, our society, our laws and our courts should have a presumption in favor of life," said Bush, who has spoken often of creating a "culture of life" by limiting such things as abortion and stem cell research.
Death penalty opponents said Bush did not give the same presumption to death row inmates in Texas, where he used his power to grant an execution stay only once while governor from 1995 to 2000.
In 2000, the state set a U.S. record with 40 executions, including that of Gary Graham, whose guilt was hotly contested and became an international controversy.
"In the face of pretty substantial evidence that Gary Graham was not a murderer, George Bush (news - web sites) didn't say anything about a 'culture of life,"' Dow said.
Legal experts say Bush has not been totally consistent on the "right-to-die" issue because in 1999 he signed a Texas law similar to the Florida law under which a judge ordered the removal of Schiavo's feeding tube.
The Texas law allows for life support to be stopped under certain circumstances at the request of a family member or other appropriate surrogate.
"If this case had been in Texas the same thing would have happened as happened in Florida," said John Robertson, professor at the University of Texas law school and author of a book on bioethics called "The Rights of the Critically Ill."
But, he said, Bush's support of the emergency bill for Schiavo was not "a direct contradiction" of the Texas law.
"He's saying he thought it was good enough from the state's perspective at the time, and now he's saying there may be cases that might need a second look," he said.
Diane Clemens, head of the Houston-based Justice for All victims' rights group, said death penalty opponents were not making legitimate comparisons.
"This woman is an innocent, brain-damaged individual who has harmed no one. Killers are convicted murderers who have harmed many people. They have had a fair process," she said.
"They have had the very process these people would try and deny Schiavo -- and that is a request for life at the federal level, in the federal courts."
On Monday, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the president's decision was based on principle, not politics.
"It (Schiavo case) is a complex case, where serious questions and significant doubts have been raised," he said. "And the president is always going to stand on the side of defending life."
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Post by MercurySolo on Mar 24, 2005 15:46:28 GMT -5
Yeah, Bush is a walking contradiction. Pro-life, pro-Schiavo's life, pro-capital punishment and anti-arab-or-US Military-life. The funny thing is that, at least in my opinion, the Terri Schiavo case is none of our business, it should have been handled within the family and husband... a dilemma like that is a very personal decision to make, hard enough without a cokehead getting his foot wedged in the door.
As for Bush getting 51% of the votes, there was a graphic in one of the local papers that pretty much summed up what's going on... it had a North American map, and it had in blue Canada, the US West Coast and Eastern Seaboard down to Virginia as the United States of Canada, and every other part of the US in red with the label "Jesusland". funny, if partly inaccurate.
The situation gets really interesting if you look at a color coded map of the results of the election by county instead of by state... just about the whole map is red except for counties containing major metropolitan areas... very little blue, but those blue counties have loads of people living there.
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