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Post by soniktruth on Jul 27, 2003 3:35:34 GMT -5
AS A LAKERS FAN, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS BELIEVE IN THIS MEDIA FUELED CONTRAVERSY.....PLEASE BE TRUTHFUL, AND EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS FREELY.....THANKS PHUCKERS#nosmileys#nosmileys
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Post by Guest on Jul 27, 2003 8:55:45 GMT -5
I don't think he raped her. He's too good of a person, and comes from a good family. I don't see why he would even have sex with her, he's married and she was underage. Maybe the fame just took over.
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Post by motherprussia on Jul 27, 2003 21:28:40 GMT -5
...i see him having sex with her only, not raping her...and i can see her coming on to him...i mean, he's kobe bryant...who wouldn't want to have sex with him...but seriously, i think she concented, and then maybe thought to herself, "oh my god, what have i done...this isn't right" and then she told someone, like her parents, and they freaked out and convinced her that she was raped...but i don't know, i haven't been keeping up with this controversy...i hate the media, and i really hate when the sports media (the only kind of media i can usually stand) starts making big deals about these things...just let it work itself out and give me the baseball highlights, please...
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Post by Guest on Jul 27, 2003 23:53:40 GMT -5
I agree with motherprussia, but maybe she took advantage of him being famous. Maybe she thought well I could sue him and get a lot from this, and also say that she had sex with Kobe. Does anyone know whats going on with that right now? is he in jail?
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Post by MercurySolo on Jul 28, 2003 1:05:35 GMT -5
I honestly don't know what to think. I mean, Kobe Bryant has had a pretty clean reputation, a model husband/new father/athlete, but that doesn't mean sh1t, as Kirby Puckett was regarded as all three of those as well, and he was later found out to be an abusive husband (don't know about abusive father), and sexually assaulted a woman in a bar bathroom two years ago. I'm not saying that Kobe did it or didn't do it, just that it wouldn't surprise me if he did do it, it'd only greatly disappoint me as a Lakers fan, in a year where, if Bryant can play, the Lakers are heavily favored to win another championship, with the addition of Kah'Malone and Gary Payton.
The main reason I don't wholeheartedly believe Kobe at first impression is that, although his apology to his wife and the media was very convincing, they have physical evidence against him. The victim, from what I've read, was bruised, and Kobe had to go to the hospital for surgery shortly after the crime happened, which sounds like it could be from her fighting him off, if he got overzealous ( I don't see Kobe punching her to fight her off, regardless of the Sprite commercial). Plus, the squeaky clean reputation could very well favor him in a trial, which leaves the victim with the burden of proof. If he did what he's accused of, I really can't root for him anymore. I have zero tolerance or respect for men who sexually assault women.
(NBA News would be a hell of a lot funnier if Kobe didn't fuck up, with Chris Webber knee-deep in scandal)
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Post by CoKeS on Jul 28, 2003 19:20:20 GMT -5
i dont think he did it... kobe's the man. SHAQ DID IT!
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Post by Guest on Jul 28, 2003 20:04:51 GMT -5
What did he have surgery for? I don't think he would have to go for surgery fighting off a 19 year old girl.
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Post by MercurySolo on Jul 29, 2003 13:34:04 GMT -5
Once again, I'm not saying Kobe did or didn't do what he's accused of, just answering a question.
Imagine a 19 year old girl about to be sexually assaulted by a man twice her size and all muscle mass. Most people do not like being beaten or raped, so they're going to fight back any way they can. When the sexual assaulter is over 6 foot and all muscle, chances are that punches and kicks from a 19 year old girl aren't going to keep the assaulter away. She has to go for bigger weapons, perhaps a broken bottle, a knife, a splintered piece of wood, anything could've been used, and if it was lodged inside of the assaulter's body, unless the have the pain threshold of the Terminator where they could pull out the lodged object themselves, he'd have to have surgery to have the object removed.
Of course, there is little to no public knowledge of what happened that night, but there is physical evidence they've talked about but haven't disclosed. Could be a broken beer bottle that Kobe had been drinking that night, could be a piece of wood that comes from a chair in the hotel room, could even be a Lee-Press-On nail of the victims' that broke off in an attempt to fight him off (if he did this).
I'm in no way accusing Kobe Bryant of raping the victim. I'm just proving the point that, when human beings feel threatened, as all people do when being raped, they'll go to any lengths necessary to fight off their attacker. Think, if you were in Oz (the prison, not Australia) and some big buff guy decides you look like a nice bitch, you're not just going to sit there and let him fuck you, are you?
"Polly says her back hurts, she's just as bored as me,
She caught me off my guard, it amazes me the will of instinct..." - Nirvana, "Polly"
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Post by soniktruth on Jul 31, 2003 15:50:28 GMT -5
I've read, was bruised, and Kobe had to go to the hospital for surgery shortly after the crime happened, which sounds like it could be from her fighting him off, if he got overzealous didn't he get some shoulder surgery in colorado?...which was the reason he was at that hotel.... |
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Post by MercurySolo on Aug 1, 2003 0:51:28 GMT -5
Is that how it happened? I didn't hear about that... well, all bets are off. Innocent until proven guilty (except for C-Webb  j/k) |
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Post by motherprussia on Aug 1, 2003 1:15:36 GMT -5
...well, first, you must remember that all of womankind is stupid...i hear that she went up to his room without a problem...and i hear that she participated in some sexual activity with him...it's just that she may or may not have said no when he moved in for the kill...well, she should have realized what she was getting into before she was put in an uncomfortable position...i hate to sound mean and careless and chauvinistic, but if girls like this particular nineteen year old would use some common sense, they wouldn't end up in these precarious situations...if she did say "no," should kobe have stopped? yes, he should have, but it's just as much her fault as it is his...in my opinion...
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Post by DigitalDwarf on Aug 1, 2003 23:34:56 GMT -5
Rape is about power..........no who u can get to sleep with you...
He did it
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Post by MercurySolo on Aug 2, 2003 16:33:32 GMT -5
...well, first, you must remember that all of womankind is stupid That's a rather blind generalization, that's like saying "first of all, you must remember that all mexicans are lazy" or "first of all, you must remember that all african-americans are genetically kleptomaniacs". Making a generalization like that invalidates your credibility before anyone has a chance to read what you have to say. Rape is not about power, it is about patheticism at its worst. at least that's what I think. Anyone who thinks of rape as a feasibility is pathetic, and does not think of women as human beings. I can't respect rapists... Mike Tyson used to be my favorite boxer, but then he had to "prove his masculinity" by raping a beauty queen. How gallant, brave and manly of him... I think I should get off this topic, nothing I say is personal to anyone here... I've just seen what rape has done to friends, family and loved ones, and NOBODY deserves that. |
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Post by motherprussia on Aug 2, 2003 18:26:10 GMT -5
sorry, merc...i'm just a little bitter...besides, guys are just as stupid (if not more)...and i think we can all agree that rape is a horrible thing...and as for kobe, we'll learn more as time goes on...
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Post by MercurySolo on Aug 2, 2003 22:17:39 GMT -5
It's cool, motherprussia, I was a little bitchy about it. guess it just hits a little close to home for me... my philosophy is "Men are Stupid, and Women are Evil. The End." guess it's just as misogynistic.
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Post by soniktruth on Aug 2, 2003 23:48:03 GMT -5
yeah no shiz, rape is a touchy subject. i'm a big time LAKERS fan, which makes me a kobe admirer. but this whole situation is keeping me from defending him. not because i think he did it. i personally don't THINK he did it....the word think and know are 2 different things. if he did do it, then that's another story. rape is a crime. but if he didn't do, then do not let this situation haunt him. you know after he [shadow=red,left,300]HOPEFULLY[/shadow] gets acquitted, he will not hear the end of it.
I SUPPORT KOBE IF HE'S INNOCENT....
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Post by MercurySolo on Aug 4, 2003 2:24:17 GMT -5
yeah no shiz, rape is a touchy subject. i'm a big time LAKERS fan, which makes me a kobe admirer. but this whole situation is keeping me from defending him. not because i think he did it. i personally don't THINK he did it....the word think and know are 2 different things. if he did do it, then that's another story. rape is a crime. but if he didn't do, then do not let this situation haunt him. you know after he [shadow=red,left,300]HOPEFULLY[/shadow] gets acquitted, he will not hear the end of it. I SUPPORT KOBE IF HE'S INNOCENT.... If I had half the tact you do, paranoid, I wouldn't know the taste of foot-in-mouth |
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Post by soniktruth on Aug 4, 2003 3:23:29 GMT -5
that's because i'm running for president......of what?..I HAVE NO IDEA!!!
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Post by PARANOID ANDROID on Aug 4, 2003 3:25:54 GMT -5
IF THE LOVE GLOVE DON'T FIT.....YOU MUST ACQUIT!!!
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j/k)