Post by Bradley on Sept 14, 2003 17:03:50 GMT -5
I don't usually start threads, but in the "Islam hating motherfucker" part, something I read warranted it. Many of you won't check bachk there so...
Mercury rightly said that the IRA did not speak for all Catholics, and Coaxial replied saying thet the IRA were Protestants. Mercury accepted this.
Coaxial, how fucking old are you?!
You have been known to pride yourself on your Britishness on this board, yet you have no knowledge of what has been the most important domestic issue in this country for a few centuries and into the 1990s and beyond!
First of all IRA stands for IRISH REPUBLICAN ARMY. They are a terrorist organizaton and their aim is to bring Northern Ireland under the rule of Ireland, in other words a return of land resultinf in a "Unified Ireland".
The country that we now refer to as "Ireland" is actually the "Republic of Ireland", ROI. The North-Eastern part of the island it is on is known as "Northern Ireland", and is part of "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Norther Ireland", or the UK. It was not always this way. From the 13th Century up until the 1920s, the WHOLE of Ireland was under British rule. At first Catholics were not allowed to own land or be MPs and were forced into working for Anglo-Norman and English Lords.
A Republic is a country without a constitutional monarchy and possesing an elected parliament. So the Republican army is anti-royal, pro-independance. The UK is a democratic state but not a republic since it has a royal family. The IRA fought for a return of Northern Ireland which is a posession of the UK's. The religion of England, and then the UK has been Protestant since the Reformation. This whole thing is partly to do with religion, and Ireland is Catholic. THE IRA IS CATHOLIC.
The IRA was formed by Irish Nationalists to fight the oppression of the British and their aim was to gain independance by any means neccessary. This was in the 19th century. After much violence and political football, the Easter Rising of 1916 propelled the British government to finally grant Ireland independance. The British did however retain the area now known as Nothern Ireland, and it is this the IRA oppose.
After independance, the army was no longer needed, and was disbanded, though forming the basis of what is now the Irish national army. After operating as a legitimate force for a short time, what we no know as the IRA was an original splinter group of the original army, and soon set about to win a return for Nothern Ireland. The Protestants of Northern Ireland bitterly oppose this, and the tit-for-tat violence that has been a feature for many years is over this issue and much more.
There is an immense amount of history which I cant begin to go into, but during the 1980s it was unsafe for both Catholics and Protestants in both England and Northern Ireland, and terrorist activities were extremely high.
To sum up, the IRA is Irish, Republican, anti-Protestant, staunchly Catholic and a terrorist organization with many splinter groups. Sinn Fein is also Catholic. Loyalists are portestants.
Coaxial, you have misdirected Mercury. No-one will get beaten up for suggesting that the IRA are Catholic. Some time ago you would have been beaten up for singin Republican songs in public here in England, being a Catholic in a Protestant area, or for peacefully demostrating against British opression, or for being a catholic outdoors in Belfast after dusk. There are STILL British military personnel in Northern Ireland, much less that back in the 80s, but they are still a presence. Protestants still march triumphantly through Catholic area in full orange dress and parading the cross of St.george. Communities are still bitterly divided and segregation common.
Coaxial, by your proud display of the British flag, you seem patriotic or at least eager that all else on the board know you are. I don't know about your ancestory, but you've just insulted mine. If I was any more judgemental, I could conclude that you are an ignorant English wanker with not a ounce of intelligence. But thankfully I'm not.
Wanker!
Mercury rightly said that the IRA did not speak for all Catholics, and Coaxial replied saying thet the IRA were Protestants. Mercury accepted this.
Coaxial, how fucking old are you?!
You have been known to pride yourself on your Britishness on this board, yet you have no knowledge of what has been the most important domestic issue in this country for a few centuries and into the 1990s and beyond!
First of all IRA stands for IRISH REPUBLICAN ARMY. They are a terrorist organizaton and their aim is to bring Northern Ireland under the rule of Ireland, in other words a return of land resultinf in a "Unified Ireland".
The country that we now refer to as "Ireland" is actually the "Republic of Ireland", ROI. The North-Eastern part of the island it is on is known as "Northern Ireland", and is part of "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Norther Ireland", or the UK. It was not always this way. From the 13th Century up until the 1920s, the WHOLE of Ireland was under British rule. At first Catholics were not allowed to own land or be MPs and were forced into working for Anglo-Norman and English Lords.
A Republic is a country without a constitutional monarchy and possesing an elected parliament. So the Republican army is anti-royal, pro-independance. The UK is a democratic state but not a republic since it has a royal family. The IRA fought for a return of Northern Ireland which is a posession of the UK's. The religion of England, and then the UK has been Protestant since the Reformation. This whole thing is partly to do with religion, and Ireland is Catholic. THE IRA IS CATHOLIC.
The IRA was formed by Irish Nationalists to fight the oppression of the British and their aim was to gain independance by any means neccessary. This was in the 19th century. After much violence and political football, the Easter Rising of 1916 propelled the British government to finally grant Ireland independance. The British did however retain the area now known as Nothern Ireland, and it is this the IRA oppose.
After independance, the army was no longer needed, and was disbanded, though forming the basis of what is now the Irish national army. After operating as a legitimate force for a short time, what we no know as the IRA was an original splinter group of the original army, and soon set about to win a return for Nothern Ireland. The Protestants of Northern Ireland bitterly oppose this, and the tit-for-tat violence that has been a feature for many years is over this issue and much more.
There is an immense amount of history which I cant begin to go into, but during the 1980s it was unsafe for both Catholics and Protestants in both England and Northern Ireland, and terrorist activities were extremely high.
To sum up, the IRA is Irish, Republican, anti-Protestant, staunchly Catholic and a terrorist organization with many splinter groups. Sinn Fein is also Catholic. Loyalists are portestants.
Coaxial, you have misdirected Mercury. No-one will get beaten up for suggesting that the IRA are Catholic. Some time ago you would have been beaten up for singin Republican songs in public here in England, being a Catholic in a Protestant area, or for peacefully demostrating against British opression, or for being a catholic outdoors in Belfast after dusk. There are STILL British military personnel in Northern Ireland, much less that back in the 80s, but they are still a presence. Protestants still march triumphantly through Catholic area in full orange dress and parading the cross of St.george. Communities are still bitterly divided and segregation common.
Coaxial, by your proud display of the British flag, you seem patriotic or at least eager that all else on the board know you are. I don't know about your ancestory, but you've just insulted mine. If I was any more judgemental, I could conclude that you are an ignorant English wanker with not a ounce of intelligence. But thankfully I'm not.
Wanker!
