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Post by DigitalDwarf on Mar 30, 2004 11:16:02 GMT -5
Driving the 40 min drive back home from college, I decided I discovered the true reason why ATD-I broke up. At the Drive-In never really had huge success until ROC hit the streets. The song that made them famous was One armed Scissor. Everyone had them play it when they played for talk shows and such: Letterman, Conan 'O Brien, Farm Club. It was their claim to fame in the mainstream world. Cedric and Omar realized this and feared the realization of being quite possibly a "One Hit Wonder". You know the types: Vanilla Ice, MC HAMMER, etc. So they made the decision to end it right then and there. I was use this quote. It is better to be snuffed out, then to fade away. (actually that isn't the real quote, but i can't remember the first part of it). Anyways, that is my theory. What do you think?
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Post by CoKeS on Mar 30, 2004 14:35:44 GMT -5
I dont think I agree with your theory, sorry man. ATD-I werent the type of band to be concerned with being a one hit wonder, or a band that stuck around for 20 years. They just wanted to make the music that they liked, but unfortunately, that didn't happen...
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Post by soniktruth on Mar 30, 2004 16:23:35 GMT -5
it all boils down to punk politics, they felt like they sold out.....letterman, leno, and etc...
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Post by CoKeS on Mar 30, 2004 17:39:21 GMT -5
it all boils down to punk politics, they felt like they sold out.....letterman, leno, and etc... That's what I dont get about Sparta and TMV, cuz both of them are on major record labels so I'm kinda confused. |
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Post by arcarsenal101 on Mar 30, 2004 18:37:37 GMT -5
Atd-i was a smart band, they had the talent and success to what they wanted. they didnt have to prove nothing to now one. They are not the type of band to grab attention or money. The reason why they broke up is because omar said and i quote "i got tired of playing the same style of music" becides jim ward thought he ran the mother fuckin show  and alot of people said they sounded like RATM which was wrong. I think u sould look at your facts about atdi and see that there not another "casualtie" or a one hit wonder, there are many songs that became popular off the vaya and in casino out. They denied fame after RoC, individual letter department made them think. Personally JIm Ward bitches too much about how he feels 17 and busted his ass. Sparta aint going no where. The Murder City Devils, where best of friends with Atdi and had the same view about the whole scene, they broke up at the same time, and moved onto better and bigger things. |
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Post by CoKeS on Mar 30, 2004 20:51:07 GMT -5
When did Jim talk about busting his ass?
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Post by piesore on Mar 30, 2004 21:40:05 GMT -5
Ok, At the Drive in DID NOT break up beause of popularity, they have made that clear in interviews. Omar and Cedric said something along the lines that they felt "spiritually bankrupt" with the music.
This is my interpretation of what happened: they more or less toured themselves into the ground. ATDi was a touring band, they slowly built a name for themselves over the years through a shitload of great shows. With RoC they didn't have to tour as much, but they did, b/c of the management. In one interview, basically they said something like "we wanted a break, but the management said to keep going. Our van crashed, we almost died, management told us to keep going, this went on for a good six months or more, and eventually I realized one night when Omar was just standing there on stage, this was it". So, basically, personal relationships festered over that period of time, the band got no time to regroup, which is why the creative differences seemed to become insurmountable. I really think if they had been able to take a break much earlier and work through their differences ATDi would still be around today. But alas, that's not the case.
People always think bands sell out or feel bad when they start to hit it big, but really, that's the goal most groups are shooting for, to be able to have enough money to express their vision in the most accurate way possible, to have as many people experience that vision as possible and to be financially secure in doing what you love. Hopping onto a major label often is the opposite of selling out, unless you luck out and sell millions of records, you will usually make more money as a renowned indie band.
If they really didn't want to become a one hit wonder, they probably wouldn't be on a major label now, they really don't care about the big "hit", making music is just something they love to do.
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Post by arcarsenal101 on Mar 31, 2004 1:10:13 GMT -5
That is basicly right, but there was a new interview that the mars volta did for mtv, and had some atdi interview too, jim said and i quote " We had a deal in our band, the day someoned gets tired of doing this thats it! if its in the middle of the interview or tour where done" that expains it all
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Post by MercurySolo on Mar 31, 2004 2:11:18 GMT -5
hmmm...  |
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Post by arcarsenal101 on Apr 1, 2004 1:24:53 GMT -5
wtf
thats one lame pic
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Post by CoKeS on Apr 1, 2004 14:59:09 GMT -5
does Sparta still do a lot of drugs? i know its a random question.
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Post by soniktruth on Apr 1, 2004 16:18:14 GMT -5
hmmm... who's that, EMO YONO.................sorry, stupid joke |
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Post by arcarsenal101 on Apr 2, 2004 12:25:42 GMT -5
The only thing i hated about atdi when ther where around was the policies they had at the live shows. i just show one of there live shows and cedric was trying to act all hard saying he was gonna hit someone with his mic if he got hit with a water bottle, and jim ward was bitching about how he hated slam dancing, DUDE its punk rock crazy shit happens all the time, it is no fun when you see people standing there all bored watching atdi
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Post by MercurySolo on Apr 2, 2004 20:06:33 GMT -5
It's their right to tell the crowd that, though. It's fucking stupid, not everyone goes to a punk show to get the living shit kicked out of them. They're into the music, and they probably want the audience to be into the music, too, not romping around like a bunch of fucking cavemen. There was some quality fucking music going on up on stage, and I know if I was up on stage and the crowd was doing that, I'd probably walk off stage. I mean, there's 14 year old girls in the audience who like to get close to the stage 'cause they think people in the band are cute, and they shouldn't get knocked around like rag dolls because some asshole can only get it up when knocking around people at a concert.
Look what happened to Pearl Jam at Rokslide a couple of years ago. They fucking told the crowd at least 3 times to back off. He saw people being crushed in the front of the pit, and were too small to work their way out. The crowd shrugged it off, "We're just trying to have a good time." Well, their "good time" resulted in the death of 9 people.
I worked for the Bill Graham Presents staffing company, a division of Fillmore Theatrical Services in Northern California, for 2 years. Working front of stage at punk concerts, I can't tell you how many times I've seen young, skinny kids get pulled into a pit, knocked around, shoved up front, and suffocating because the 10 assholes behind them won't listen to the people around them telling them that someone's getting crushed. Just seeing the look on their faces when they turn from pink to red to purple within 15 seconds, and having to pull them out of the crowd because of inconsiderate pricks... it never really leaves your mind.
Last show I was at (a.f.i.), some 6'5" 300 lbs. skinhead fucking threw my girlfriend on the ground and started kicking her. My girl didn't even tell me about being knocked around by the guy because she knew I wouldn't have stopped until I killed him or was dead myself. We spent $80 to watch the Foo Fighter and Deftones, and she ends up getting beat by some guy who probably couldn't name a song by any of the bands there.
Bottom line, if you're gonna mosh, mosh responsibly. If you're looking to have a "good time" no matter who gets in your way, it's fucking pre-meditated assault and battery, especially if you're dragging in people who just came to enjoy the show they spent their hard-earned money on.
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Post by DigitalDwarf on Apr 3, 2004 0:09:08 GMT -5
Amen, Merc. If you want to throw people around join the WWE
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Post by CoKeS on Apr 3, 2004 11:22:01 GMT -5
PREACH MERC!
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Post by Castro on Jun 12, 2004 13:39:42 GMT -5
when ATD-I were recording ROC, omar and cedric were already doing TMV as a side project they were constantly threatening to leave ATD-I and jim was like, "they'll come back to us at the end of the day" then ATD-I's manager would say to them, "you guys go make your santana-rock-band thing" omar and cedric provided the amazing bits that made ATD-I unique and jim,tony,paul kept them on the ground TMV has got some crazy interludes and deloused is very hard to listen to at first. but wiretap scars was just very bland also, ROC was originally intended to be an album based loosely on a certain film and apparently jim tony and paul screwed it up really omar and cedric were putting up with jim tony and paul and vice verca, so they just broke up   |
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Post by CoKeS on Jun 12, 2004 22:56:16 GMT -5
where did you hear this?
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Post by Castro on Jun 15, 2004 8:41:01 GMT -5
in an article about Mars Volta in some magazine
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Post by piesore on Jun 16, 2004 0:06:23 GMT -5
I read all this, but it's not true according to Sparta band members. Or so, someone tells me...jimbob on the inertiatic boards claims to know the "true" reason of the breakup but won't divulge, for whatever retarded reason.
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